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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-10737</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 07:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elise, that sounds quite interesting. My contact details are on the &quot;Contact Us&quot; page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elise, that sounds quite interesting. My contact details are on the &#8220;Contact Us&#8221; page.</p>
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		<title>By: Elise</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-10736</link>
		<dc:creator>Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 07:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, I am putting together a documentary on the Waterview Connection for my final piece in my degree at AUT.  It is an opportunity for me to make something without the pressures of funding and to put across a unique perspective.  Is this something you would be interested in take part in?  I would very much value talking to you, if you would have the time.  You can email me at elisebrinkman@gmail.com.

Thanks very much,
Elise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, I am putting together a documentary on the Waterview Connection for my final piece in my degree at AUT.  It is an opportunity for me to make something without the pressures of funding and to put across a unique perspective.  Is this something you would be interested in take part in?  I would very much value talking to you, if you would have the time.  You can email me at <a href="mailto:elisebrinkman@gmail.com">elisebrinkman@gmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks very much,<br />
Elise</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hendren</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hendren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 12:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi jarbury,

Interesting what you say about the rail corridor.  At last Saturday&#039;s State Highway 20 extension &#039;open day&#039; I asked at the public information tent where the railway line was going to go.  He pointed to a narrow stretch of grass which he said would be for light rail - and only room for a single track.

So I wondered if even the Hillsbourgh to Mt Roskill extension may have already limited options, such as the freight line or a passenger service with decent frequency (or like you say made the rail option more expensive in the future).  If NZTA are building roads in rail corridors they need to leave room for double tracked heavy rail - when I don&#039;t see details of this in their planning I am worried that their claims of making rail provision don&#039;t mean much.

I&#039;ve had differing opinions from people when I have raised this question - so I wondered what you made of it all.

Here is my post from last Sunday
http://joehendren.blogspot.com/2009/05/state-highway-20-bit-sneaky.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi jarbury,</p>
<p>Interesting what you say about the rail corridor.  At last Saturday&#8217;s State Highway 20 extension &#8216;open day&#8217; I asked at the public information tent where the railway line was going to go.  He pointed to a narrow stretch of grass which he said would be for light rail &#8211; and only room for a single track.</p>
<p>So I wondered if even the Hillsbourgh to Mt Roskill extension may have already limited options, such as the freight line or a passenger service with decent frequency (or like you say made the rail option more expensive in the future).  If NZTA are building roads in rail corridors they need to leave room for double tracked heavy rail &#8211; when I don&#8217;t see details of this in their planning I am worried that their claims of making rail provision don&#8217;t mean much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had differing opinions from people when I have raised this question &#8211; so I wondered what you made of it all.</p>
<p>Here is my post from last Sunday<br />
<a href="http://joehendren.blogspot.com/2009/05/state-highway-20-bit-sneaky.html" rel="nofollow">http://joehendren.blogspot.com/2009/05/state-highway-20-bit-sneaky.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 08:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that sound walls are commonly used these days to block the noise from the motorway from reaching neighbouring properties - or at least to minimise it. I would imagine/hope that sound walls will be constructed on the edge of the motorway as it goes through Alan Wood Reserve (though they&#039;re not shown on the cross-section).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that sound walls are commonly used these days to block the noise from the motorway from reaching neighbouring properties &#8211; or at least to minimise it. I would imagine/hope that sound walls will be constructed on the edge of the motorway as it goes through Alan Wood Reserve (though they&#8217;re not shown on the cross-section).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Ashby</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ashby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For five years we lived in NW London with the M1 at the bottom of the garden (up a bank and behind a fence). All the windows on the back of the house were triple glazed via accessory  sliding glazing inside. A neighbour said that was put in gratis when the motorway went up. Certainly it was hard to hear the motorway from one of the back bedrooms. I suspect that something like that would be a good thing to do for residents whose properties will abut the open sections of the motorway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For five years we lived in NW London with the M1 at the bottom of the garden (up a bank and behind a fence). All the windows on the back of the house were triple glazed via accessory  sliding glazing inside. A neighbour said that was put in gratis when the motorway went up. Certainly it was hard to hear the motorway from one of the back bedrooms. I suspect that something like that would be a good thing to do for residents whose properties will abut the open sections of the motorway.</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about what Owen McShane says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The waterview interchange will become a major node and commerce and industry will begin to move towards it provice a new employment centre – one which be highly accessible to all those folk in Waitakere City who currently have to get to the CBD or to Albany. People like me will drive to the Airport using the bypass instead of going over the bridge and out to Mangere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And when I said &quot;...the Waterview Interchange will not actually allow SH20-&gt;SH16 (or vice-versa) traffic to exit the motorway. I can’t see businesses located close to it just for the view.&quot; His reply:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually interchanges do attract development even though there is no direct access to the surface road network precisely because of the view. Elevated ramps make the surrounding land visible and aids navigation and signing. So properties on either side of, and around the interchange become more valuable because they are more visible and attract commerce and industry because of the high quality accessibility to three or four major sectors of the motorway network.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Remember, there will be no access from Pt Chev/Waterview to the Waterview Connection.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/liberty_scott_on_waterview.html#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about what Owen McShane says:</p>
<blockquote><p>The waterview interchange will become a major node and commerce and industry will begin to move towards it provice a new employment centre – one which be highly accessible to all those folk in Waitakere City who currently have to get to the CBD or to Albany. People like me will drive to the Airport using the bypass instead of going over the bridge and out to Mangere.</p></blockquote>
<p>And when I said &#8220;&#8230;the Waterview Interchange will not actually allow SH20-&gt;SH16 (or vice-versa) traffic to exit the motorway. I can’t see businesses located close to it just for the view.&#8221; His reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>Actually interchanges do attract development even though there is no direct access to the surface road network precisely because of the view. Elevated ramps make the surrounding land visible and aids navigation and signing. So properties on either side of, and around the interchange become more valuable because they are more visible and attract commerce and industry because of the high quality accessibility to three or four major sectors of the motorway network.</p></blockquote>
<p>Remember, there will be no access from Pt Chev/Waterview to the Waterview Connection.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/liberty_scott_on_waterview.html#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/liberty_scott_on_waterview.html#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New Zealand Council for Infrastructure Development claims that the new motorway will improve property values in the area: http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/residents-vow-fight-over-motorway-extension-2735345

&quot;NZCID chief executive Stephen Selwood says the motorway will increase property values around the Waterview Connection and &quot;provide a welcome boost to the industry at a time that we need it most&quot;.&quot;

Right Stephen, I can think of a million examples of high value areas that are right next to a motorway.  Oh wait -- no I can&#039;t think of one.

Why do special interest groups have their outright lies published in news stories??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Zealand Council for Infrastructure Development claims that the new motorway will improve property values in the area: <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/residents-vow-fight-over-motorway-extension-2735345" rel="nofollow">http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/residents-vow-fight-over-motorway-extension-2735345</a></p>
<p>&#8220;NZCID chief executive Stephen Selwood says the motorway will increase property values around the Waterview Connection and &#8220;provide a welcome boost to the industry at a time that we need it most&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right Stephen, I can think of a million examples of high value areas that are right next to a motorway.  Oh wait &#8212; no I can&#8217;t think of one.</p>
<p>Why do special interest groups have their outright lies published in news stories??</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because National hates trains?

I&#039;m trying to think of a better response.... ummm... nope</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because National hates trains?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to think of a better response&#8230;. ummm&#8230; nope</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve brought up the issue with the existing rail designation - I was wondering when someone was going to mention that. When the new route was announced I flicked through the plans as they exist on the arta and the nzta websites. These clearly show the rail designation, which must now have a big question mark over it. Why hasn&#039;t this been addressed in the official press releases?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve brought up the issue with the existing rail designation &#8211; I was wondering when someone was going to mention that. When the new route was announced I flicked through the plans as they exist on the arta and the nzta websites. These clearly show the rail designation, which must now have a big question mark over it. Why hasn&#8217;t this been addressed in the official press releases?</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/05/14/another-waterview-connection-post/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the tunnel under Avondale heights is short enough to get away with no technically requiring ventilation. The same is possibly true for the one under Great North Road.

That&#039;s what the gap between the two tunnels is for I guess... pity the poor suckers living around there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the tunnel under Avondale heights is short enough to get away with no technically requiring ventilation. The same is possibly true for the one under Great North Road.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the gap between the two tunnels is for I guess&#8230; pity the poor suckers living around there.</p>
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